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    July 04, 2008

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    jjd

    great article! Did you know that his first wife was one of Jehovah's Witnesses?

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    Melvin

    jjd, until I read Mandela's Wikipedia entry, I didn't even know about the first wife. I thought Winnie was his first wife.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelson_Mandela

    Fladnag

    Melvin I dont agree. Mandela may be a great statesman, but he is not of the calibre of Ghandi. Mandela was preparing for armed struggle (which didnt rule out killing civilians), "if all else fails" (obviously when Mandela himself was to decide when all else failed!) whereas Ghandi said the most effective resistence was peaceful resistence, whatever the circumstances, no matter what! That, in my opinion, puts Ghandi in an entirely different category to Mandela.

    Badri

    I agree with fladnag. Gandhi can not be compared with Mandella. In fact, post his release from prison, there have been many controversial things which Mandela has done, including openly sympathising with the Libyan government and Gadafi, etc..

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/article885289.ece
    of course, clarkson isnt the ultimate authority on anything, but he does, at times make a point.

    But, what I do like in your write-up is the way he reconciled with his agressors. something, all of us should learn.

    Roopesh

    Mandela and Mbeki have not done anything about Zimbabwe; and in fact Mbeki has been complicit in Mugabe's paranoid and terrible oppression of his people. They have the moral authority and the political/social/economic
    leverage as a key neighboring country. Inaction in the face of injustice is not a Gandhian ideal and their weak response diminishes their stature.

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    Suresh

    This piece is hardly amusing. may be it was not meant to be. But you made my day by your last line "He doesn't need power -- he has something far greater: integrity." True indeed. Remarkable after spending 27 years in prison he not only could retain his mental prowess but could dismantle apartheid, assume power and have the clarity to give it up. of course romance might have to do something to do with it. I raise my cup of kapi ( the brown coffee ) that I drink to the grand young man Mandela!

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    charlie

    Are you crazy. To toast a murder who killed his own tribe members when they did not agree with him. When he went to prison his second wife took over where he left off. She was more extreme than he was but both were known for putting a tire around a person neck that disagreed with them. Filled it wiith gasoline and put a match to it and watched this person burn with thier hands tied behind their backs, oh what a great stateman. Time magazine man of the year. Time put pictures of these people burning back in the late 60's. What a short memory.

    Bob

    I think Winnie was an advocate of necklacing, wasn't she? Before you lionize Mandela, do the research. I am not all that sure he is as non-violent as the beloved Mahatma.

    Bob

    Thorn

    Really makes you think how valuable a handshake with George Bush, Bill Clinton or Pee Wee Herman will be ...

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    disco

    Mandela is on the level of MLK but not as spiritualy pure and socially conscious as Ghandi the endearing nonviolent one.

    hosni_mubarak

    Mama, Melvin scolded me! (cries)

    HAMAM

    Melvin Im your biggest fan. In Uganda, not in south America but in East Africa!!
    We all respect Mandela regardless of how he achieved it but the way you fight depends on your opponents style. wats important is wat he fought for "PEACE"
    HAMAN, UGANDA.

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